Everwood News-Thread
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Irv
ach ich wusste es muahhhhModi hat geschrieben:grown out = lang wachsen lassenIrv hat geschrieben:das ist definitiv das Sesson FinaleModi hat geschrieben:Es ist übrigens nur eines der beiden möglichen Finale!
p.s. ich wusste garnicht das Trait seine Haare für extra grau färbtoder habe ich das jetzt in meiner müdigkeit falsch übersetzt.
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marie~
hab einen link gefunden, auf dem laute videos von everwood gepostet sind, dachte, dass passt hier gut hin 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQgZDxO2 ... h=Everwood
sind wirklich schöne dabei
... mir gefällt beosnders dass von andy und ephram oder amy und ephram you mean everything to me
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQgZDxO2 ... h=Everwood
sind wirklich schöne dabei
... mir gefällt beosnders dass von andy und ephram oder amy und ephram you mean everything to me
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Sandra
Rina Mimoun, Produzentin von "Everwood", wechselt zu den "Gilmore Girls", jetzt wo die Serie zuende ist:
Quelle: TV Guide.comScoop!: Everwood Exec Joins Gilmore
If you were looking for a silver lining in Everwood's tragic and untimely cancellation, here it is: Sources confirm that executive producer Rina Mimoun has joined Gilmore Girls as a consultant. I don't know about you, but I consider this a huge coup for Gilmore. Not only will Rina bring her considerable show running talents to Stars Hollow, but she has an unparalleled aptitude for nuanced characterizations and — more importantly — satisfying story arcs. If I were new Gilmore bossman Dave Rosenthal, I'd be breathing a huge sigh of relief.
Posted by: Michael Ausiello 05/24/2006 10:10 AM
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Tabby91
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Modi
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Irv
wie soll man das den verstehenTabby91 hat geschrieben:Sehe ich genauso! Dann kann sie ihr Talent wenigstens wieder in eine Serie stecken, die es lohnt. Auch wenn es mir lieber wäre sie könnte sich an die nächste Staffel Everwood setzten
DC und Everwood wahren gute Serien nur RM hat einfach nix drauf wo die auftaucht geht alles den Bach runter.-
Tabby91
Hey, cool bleiben! Das sollte jetzt keine Kritik an Everwood sein oder so. Ich meinte nur, dass sie dann jetzt ja NOCHMAL die Möglichkeit hat an einer guten Serie wie Everwood zu arbeiten, auch wenn diese jetzt aufhört. Außerdem meinte ich, dass ich es natürlich noch besser fände, wenn Everwood noch weitergehen würde und sie daran arbeiten könnte. Ok? Hab mich vielleicht etwas unklar ausgedrückt...sorry...
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Modi
Ich hab das auch nicht als Kritik an Everwood gesehen.Tabby91 hat geschrieben:Hey, cool bleiben! Das sollte jetzt keine Kritik an Everwood sein oder so. Ich meinte nur, dass sie dann jetzt ja NOCHMAL die Möglichkeit hat an einer guten Serie wie Everwood zu arbeiten, auch wenn diese jetzt aufhört. Außerdem meinte ich, dass ich es natürlich noch besser fände, wenn Everwood noch weitergehen würde und sie daran arbeiten könnte. Ok? Hab mich vielleicht etwas unklar ausgedrückt...sorry...
Ich bin nur gespannt, ob GG noch nach der nächsten Season eine weitere bekommt, weil die eigentlichen Storywriter von GG in der nächsten Season nicht mehr dabei sind und sie noch Rina "the Series-Destroyer" Mimoun dazubekommen. Wir werden es an den Ratings sehen.
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Coffee
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Sandra
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Irv
nein das ist keine Polemik, ich fand die letzten Staffeln von DC einfach nicht gut und bei der 5. hatte sie ihre Hände mit drin, aber genauso halte ich von Anna Frick nicht viel.Sandra hat geschrieben:Könntest Du das begründen, inwieweit RM Dawson's Creek angeblich kaputt gemacht hat oder ist das nur reine Polemik?Irv hat geschrieben:DC und Everwood wahren gute Serien nur RM hat einfach nix drauf wo die auftaucht geht alles den Bach runter.
Und von den Episoden von Everwood brauch man ja garnicht erst anzufangen .
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Sandra
Rina M. war aber nur als Autorin für DC tätig und hat gerade mal sage und schreibe 3 Folgen geschrieben.Irv hat geschrieben:nein das ist keine Polemik, ich fand die letzten Staffeln von DC einfach nicht gut und bei der 5. hatte sie ihre Hände mit drin, aber genauso halte ich von Anna Frick nicht viel.Sandra hat geschrieben:Könntest Du das begründen, inwieweit RM Dawson's Creek angeblich kaputt gemacht hat oder ist das nur reine Polemik?Irv hat geschrieben:DC und Everwood wahren gute Serien nur RM hat einfach nix drauf wo die auftaucht geht alles den Bach runter.
Und von den Episoden von Everwood brauch man ja garnicht erst anzufangen .
Inwieweit man ihr da die Schuld für die sinkende Qualität einer Serie geben kann, ist für mich sehr fraglich.Von Everwood habe ich gar nicht geredet, es ging gerade nur um Deine Aussage zu DC, die ich für nicht gerechtfertigt halte, da da ganz andere Leute ihre Finger im Spiel hatten.
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Irv
Ich nannte ja bereitws andere Namen, ich sagte nicht das sie allein schuld ist.Sandra hat geschrieben:Rina M. war aber nur als Autorin für DC tätig und hat gerade mal sage und schreibe 3 Folgen geschrieben.Irv hat geschrieben:nein das ist keine Polemik, ich fand die letzten Staffeln von DC einfach nicht gut und bei der 5. hatte sie ihre Hände mit drin, aber genauso halte ich von Anna Frick nicht viel.Sandra hat geschrieben: Könntest Du das begründen, inwieweit RM Dawson's Creek angeblich kaputt gemacht hat oder ist das nur reine Polemik?
Und von den Episoden von Everwood brauch man ja garnicht erst anzufangen .
Von Everwood habe ich gar nicht geredet, es ging gerade nur um Deine Aussage zu DC, die ich für nicht gerechtfertigt halte, da da ganz andere Leute ihre Finger im Spiel hatten.
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JanineK
Hi Leute! Hab gerade ne super Seite mit Videos von Everwood gefunden. Hauptsächlich von Ephram und Amy:
http://www.unexpected-fate.net/lovestor ... ideos.html
Hoffe ich hab das jetzt im richtigen Thread gepostet. War mir nicht ganz sicher wohin sowas kommt.
http://www.unexpected-fate.net/lovestor ... ideos.html
Hoffe ich hab das jetzt im richtigen Thread gepostet. War mir nicht ganz sicher wohin sowas kommt.
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marie~
hab auch noch eine seite gefunden auf denen ausschnitte von everwood sind. besonders heftig find ich den streit aus der ersten folge zwischen ephram und andy...
http://www.tv.com/everwood/show/9008/videos.html
http://www.tv.com/everwood/show/9008/videos.html
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Modi
Ein netter Artikel, der Everwood gut beschreibt.
The canceled, unforgettable `Everwood'
By Maureen Ryan
Tribune television reporter
The people on "Everwood" are real to me.
They're not, obviously. They're fictional creations. I get that.
But over four seasons, the writers for this WB drama, which has been canceled by the new CW network and only airs two more Mondays, have managed the trickiest feat in television: They've created characters who are consistent and compelling, yet capable of real change.
Too often on television, the "changes" that characters go through aren't really changes. The characters aren't really evolving -- the writers just alter a show's inhabitants to suit the plot of the week.
Inconsistency
Even some often-excellent shows have been incredibly inconsistent in this regard. One week, Lorelai Gilmore of "Gilmore Girls" is sane and wise, the next week, she's spouting the most pathetic, selfish drivel. One week Nate Fisher of "Six Feet Under" is a caring, empathic guy, the next week he's a thoughtless jerk. Don't even start me on "Nip/Tuck"; those poor actors were given such wildly different parts to play each week of Season 3 that it's a wonder the leads didn't suffer from whiplash.
Contrast those people with characters such as Commander Adama on "Battlestar Galactica," Al Swearengen on "Deadwood," Chloe O'Brian on "24" or Pam Beesley on "The Office." If you watch those shows consistently, you come to feel you know who those people are, down to the root of their souls. They're fictional but absolutely real, because the people who create and act these roles are meticulous in their attention to detail and disciplined about every gesture, every nuance, every step the character takes.
Of course, in real life, people don't act consistently. People will surprise you with the good and bad things they're capable of. But it's really tiresome to hear TV writers defend their sloppy writing and erratic characterizations as signs of "growth" and "change."
Characters exhibiting new facets of themselves, and struggling with new issues each week -- that can make for great TV. But characters acting like they've had a personality transplant each week -- that's just weak writing, and it drives me nuts when writers whine that viewers won't accept it when characters evolve. Too often viewers are asked to accept inconsistency and expediency born of bad planning as "evolution."
It's not as though characters have to be likable to keep our interest, either. The writers of "The Shield" have made Vic Mackey into the most compelling character on television partly because many of his actions are so wrong. Some weeks you want to write Mackey off as the murderer, adulterer and out-of-control vigilante that he can be. But then Mackey will do something selfless, something tender. And you can't look away from his struggle to be a better man.
The writers haven't cheated
"Everwood" has been refreshing thanks to a similar (though much less violent, obviously) commitment to showing the real messiness of change -- warts, epiphanies and all. In a lot of ways, Andy Brown, the lead character, is the same guy who first brought his family to the small Colorado town. He's often meddling, arrogant, clueless about how he comes off to others and a bit of a control freak. He's frequently made a mess of his dealings with his kids.
And he's also loving, compassionate and willing to forgo his own personal pride and comfort to help someone else out of a tough spot. In other words, he's a completely realistic mixture of good and bad qualities, with the good, as it usually does, outweighing the bad.
Over the past four seasons, Brown's remained that guy -- self-absorbed, clueless, caring and wonderfully sweet -- but he has evolved as well, in ways that make sense. He still spars with his kids, but at least he's willing to admit how wrong he can be. He's seen how being a control freak -- for example, he refused to tell his son Ephram that his girlfriend had given birth to Ephram's child -- rarely works out as planned. And he's opened up the heart that had been adamantly shut when his wife died.
His growth, and that of the other characters on the show, is priceless because every single bit of it has been earned. We've seen it. The writers haven't cheated; suddenly, guarded Andy Brown didn't wake up one morning, ready for an epic love affair to bloom. He is, though, ready to make that leap. Since day one, as creator Greg Berlanti has said, the story of "Everwood" has been, in large part, the story of Andy Brown learning to love again.
Measured, complicated steps
The loss of his wife is what made Brown re-examine his life and move his whole family to the mountain town of Everwood. In measured, complicated steps, the writers have moved Brown to the point where he could truly open up his heart once more. It'd be hard to imagine "Everwood" going off the air without Brown settled into a relationship with his next-door neighbor and great, if so far mostly unrequited, love, Nina Feeney.
When that does happen -- when Brown and Feeney do finally make it official -- I'll be watching, and quite probably crying. "Everwood" has made me cry more than just about any other show I've ever watched, aside from the first few years of "Six Feet Under."
But I don't regret a single tear; it's all been cathartic weeping. People (and I know I'm not the only one) cry while watching "Everwood" because the show depicts real people, in really tough situations. It doesn't give these people easy solutions to their problems, and when they triumph, even in a small way, it means something.
It would be easy to rail against the new CW network for not rewarding the complex, detailed and often funny people and stories of "Everwood" with another season. But that would go against the spirit of the show, which is, after all, about forgiveness. Brown learned to forgive his wife for dying, to forgive himself for making huge mistakes, and even the formerly angry Ephram has forgiven his dad for being a dolt at times.
So I choose to forgive the CW (though it's really hard to do so). But I won't forget "Everwood." And I sincerely hope that every new crop of writers in Hollywood rents DVDs of this series to see how quality television drama and compelling character development are created.
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moryan@tribune.com
Quelle: Fanbolt.com
The canceled, unforgettable `Everwood'
By Maureen Ryan
Tribune television reporter
The people on "Everwood" are real to me.
They're not, obviously. They're fictional creations. I get that.
But over four seasons, the writers for this WB drama, which has been canceled by the new CW network and only airs two more Mondays, have managed the trickiest feat in television: They've created characters who are consistent and compelling, yet capable of real change.
Too often on television, the "changes" that characters go through aren't really changes. The characters aren't really evolving -- the writers just alter a show's inhabitants to suit the plot of the week.
Inconsistency
Even some often-excellent shows have been incredibly inconsistent in this regard. One week, Lorelai Gilmore of "Gilmore Girls" is sane and wise, the next week, she's spouting the most pathetic, selfish drivel. One week Nate Fisher of "Six Feet Under" is a caring, empathic guy, the next week he's a thoughtless jerk. Don't even start me on "Nip/Tuck"; those poor actors were given such wildly different parts to play each week of Season 3 that it's a wonder the leads didn't suffer from whiplash.
Contrast those people with characters such as Commander Adama on "Battlestar Galactica," Al Swearengen on "Deadwood," Chloe O'Brian on "24" or Pam Beesley on "The Office." If you watch those shows consistently, you come to feel you know who those people are, down to the root of their souls. They're fictional but absolutely real, because the people who create and act these roles are meticulous in their attention to detail and disciplined about every gesture, every nuance, every step the character takes.
Of course, in real life, people don't act consistently. People will surprise you with the good and bad things they're capable of. But it's really tiresome to hear TV writers defend their sloppy writing and erratic characterizations as signs of "growth" and "change."
Characters exhibiting new facets of themselves, and struggling with new issues each week -- that can make for great TV. But characters acting like they've had a personality transplant each week -- that's just weak writing, and it drives me nuts when writers whine that viewers won't accept it when characters evolve. Too often viewers are asked to accept inconsistency and expediency born of bad planning as "evolution."
It's not as though characters have to be likable to keep our interest, either. The writers of "The Shield" have made Vic Mackey into the most compelling character on television partly because many of his actions are so wrong. Some weeks you want to write Mackey off as the murderer, adulterer and out-of-control vigilante that he can be. But then Mackey will do something selfless, something tender. And you can't look away from his struggle to be a better man.
The writers haven't cheated
"Everwood" has been refreshing thanks to a similar (though much less violent, obviously) commitment to showing the real messiness of change -- warts, epiphanies and all. In a lot of ways, Andy Brown, the lead character, is the same guy who first brought his family to the small Colorado town. He's often meddling, arrogant, clueless about how he comes off to others and a bit of a control freak. He's frequently made a mess of his dealings with his kids.
And he's also loving, compassionate and willing to forgo his own personal pride and comfort to help someone else out of a tough spot. In other words, he's a completely realistic mixture of good and bad qualities, with the good, as it usually does, outweighing the bad.
Over the past four seasons, Brown's remained that guy -- self-absorbed, clueless, caring and wonderfully sweet -- but he has evolved as well, in ways that make sense. He still spars with his kids, but at least he's willing to admit how wrong he can be. He's seen how being a control freak -- for example, he refused to tell his son Ephram that his girlfriend had given birth to Ephram's child -- rarely works out as planned. And he's opened up the heart that had been adamantly shut when his wife died.
His growth, and that of the other characters on the show, is priceless because every single bit of it has been earned. We've seen it. The writers haven't cheated; suddenly, guarded Andy Brown didn't wake up one morning, ready for an epic love affair to bloom. He is, though, ready to make that leap. Since day one, as creator Greg Berlanti has said, the story of "Everwood" has been, in large part, the story of Andy Brown learning to love again.
Measured, complicated steps
The loss of his wife is what made Brown re-examine his life and move his whole family to the mountain town of Everwood. In measured, complicated steps, the writers have moved Brown to the point where he could truly open up his heart once more. It'd be hard to imagine "Everwood" going off the air without Brown settled into a relationship with his next-door neighbor and great, if so far mostly unrequited, love, Nina Feeney.
When that does happen -- when Brown and Feeney do finally make it official -- I'll be watching, and quite probably crying. "Everwood" has made me cry more than just about any other show I've ever watched, aside from the first few years of "Six Feet Under."
But I don't regret a single tear; it's all been cathartic weeping. People (and I know I'm not the only one) cry while watching "Everwood" because the show depicts real people, in really tough situations. It doesn't give these people easy solutions to their problems, and when they triumph, even in a small way, it means something.
It would be easy to rail against the new CW network for not rewarding the complex, detailed and often funny people and stories of "Everwood" with another season. But that would go against the spirit of the show, which is, after all, about forgiveness. Brown learned to forgive his wife for dying, to forgive himself for making huge mistakes, and even the formerly angry Ephram has forgiven his dad for being a dolt at times.
So I choose to forgive the CW (though it's really hard to do so). But I won't forget "Everwood." And I sincerely hope that every new crop of writers in Hollywood rents DVDs of this series to see how quality television drama and compelling character development are created.
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moryan@tribune.com
Quelle: Fanbolt.com
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Sandra
Es wird wohl wirklich keine DVDs geben:
Rina Mimoun im Interview mit TV Guide (Achtung, das komplette Interview enthält Spoiler, die Ausschnitte nicht!):
Rina Mimoun im Interview mit TV Guide (Achtung, das komplette Interview enthält Spoiler, die Ausschnitte nicht!):
Quelle: TVGuide.comTVGuide.com: Viewers will now be able to get their daily dose of Amy and the rest of the cast since the show will soon settle into syndication on ABC Family.
Mimoun: Yes, absolutely! We are syndicated with ABC Family and they should be showing us on that network within a year. I hope they would go back to [airing] the first season, because we've had such a problem with DVDs...
TVGuide.com: That was going to be my next question — will we see additional DVD releases?
Mimoun: No DVDs! I wish I could say that a huge campaign would help that, and maybe it would. I'm a huge fan of campaigning.
TVGuide.com: Fans better sharpen their pencils and get writing!
Mimoun: Focus your letters on the DVD possibilities. From a business standpoint, we didn't have a fantastic run with our first season, but we distributed them close on the heels of when we premiered. If we had a little more time to get the rabid fan base we have right now, I feel we would have a really great run with DVDs. But again, there are a lot of powers that be much higher than myself who made the decisions. I've begged and pleaded!